I think there will be a lot of internalized problems first before any exodus. Sadly the number who are heavily medicated, self medicate with alchol and food and those who become so desparate will commit suicide - these will be the palpable strains on the org. The conscious who then awaken after these events will be the ones to leave.
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Any proof that more JW's are leaving in greater numbers then before?
by Crazyguy inor is it just wishful thinking on our parts?.
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I think it may be a grey area....
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I suspect the WTS mut be feeling pretty good about their own internal security...
by sir82 in...since it evidently was not confirmed in advance that the agm was going to be exclusively about releasing the rnwt.. i mean, we all kinda sorta expected it, but no one had a "smoking gun", as it were, officially confirming it.. in contrast, there was the leak, posted on this forum, of the july 15 2013 watchtower, a week or 2 before its official posting on jw.org.. .
i'm sure the rnwt was a well-guarded secret - on the other hand, there has been a rnwt translation committee in existence for 5+ years.
absolutely no one in the "apostate community" even hinted at this committee's existence.
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Simon Morley
May this be a lesson for us all about speculating in the future. Sir82 makes an excellent point, that despite (at times) our delusions of grandeur we do not, in fact, have anyone on the "inside". Those on the "inside" remain resolute to be faithfull at all costs - and for those that supposedly are speaking from the 'inside" they may well be here to continue their duplicity (at best) and infiltration (at worse) reporting back to their respective bethel elders who in turn pass along information to the cabal surrounding the GB.
Unfortunately my family now has to deal with fall out from the RNWT (less than a week) where my nephew (unbatized, left home at 18) and gay has been shunned by his parents and told that unless he repents "his homosexual" ways that they will have nothing to do with him. So if some of those lurkers are reading this from bethel - if anything happens to my nephew (he is hugely traumatized) then it will be on their heads along with the group of men that supposedly represent our Creator here on earth. Now i am off to console him in the hopes he understands he is loved, cherished and understood by at least some of his family.
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AGM Release: The New, Improved New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures
by Oubliette inthis just in from the annual meeting: a new release of the new, improved new world translation of the holy scriptures.
(reposted from http://m.imgur.com/a/crap8):.
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Grey cover for grey areas they have made even greyer. Grey is simply a tone (not a colour) caught anywhere between two tonal absolutes of black and white - how wholly appropriate and happifying!
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December WT - Yet more anti education drivel...
by konceptual99 innew public wt online.... yet more don't get educated drivel.... http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20131201/serve-god-as-career/.
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Yeah, the WTBS is going to end up shooting itself in its own foot over its anti eduction stance. There is clear evidence both here in Canada and in the US that not having some form of post secondary eduction in the form of a degree decreases your chances of being fully employed. Further, the WTBS is using its anti education stance as a form of control. How true is the statement of british PM Benjamin Disreli "It has been found that the best way to insure implicit obedience is to commence tyranny in the nursery."
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What is happening in Mexico?
by ILoveTTATT ini have heard that a lot of the english congregations in mexico are shutting down... they are condensing 5 congregations into one, or in some areas even disbanding the only english congregation.
jw's who have been living in mexico for many years and probably were sheltered by being in the english congregations will now have to move to spanish congregations.... .
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When I was "active" there were many who went to Mexico from Canada. One couple went for 6 months and had a housekeeper!! I would find every opportunity to get a dig in by saying: "It must be great to go where there is no need" I went down to Carmen De Playa for an actual vacation and watched from my balcony one morning as two pioneer sisters from our congreation strolled along the beach for 20 minutes with a bible in their hands and then came back, disrobed on the beach and caught the sun and local talent for th rest of the day. I bumped into the later that evening and they just had to tell me about their "big day in service" and all the RV's they had!! English speaking dubs in Mexico are there for purely selfish reasons - the Mexican dubs seem to have a very good handle on the locals and even the few english they engage.
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Another Witness Goes on about Syria and the Big "A"
by Wasanelder Once inwas speaking with a jw about an issue of mutual interest and he went on about how close we are to the end and "we just dont know how this syria situation may turn the un against religion".
gimme a break.
but this time, first ever, there was despair in his voice as if he didn't believe it any longer.
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The problems in Syria are not religous in nature. The problem is a despot in absolute power, another in a long line of despots with absolute power, not the first and not the last. This despot was equally supported (depending on their M.O.) by the US and Russia as the ebb abd flow of geopolitics made its mark. Next the dubs will be saying the parbuckling (love that word!) of the Costa Concordia is a fullfillment of Revelation 13.
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In 10 words or less express your joy at being free from JW prison.
by Wasanelder Once ini love and enjoy life as never before!.
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Free at last, free at last, free at last period
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Feb 10th 2010, 9:05pm - last day in FS (forced slavery) Saturday Feb 13th, 2010 lasted till coffee break at 11am precisely (coffee was always right at 11am after dawdling after the prayer for 1/2hr. Out at 10:15am, first call at 10:30am, last call at 10:55am, coffee at 11:00am. Lame excuse at 11:35am and home by 11:50am, lunch at 12:00pm - free at last, free at last!!
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Steve Hassan Interviews XJW elder, Roberto di Stefano, at ICSA Conference in Italy
by AndersonsInfo intrieste, italy - icsa conference - july 6, 2013. both roberto di stefano and steve hassan were speakers at the conference.
you can see the hassan interview on his website.
here's the link:http://freedomofmind.com/media/video.php?id=59.
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Simon Morley
Steve needs to hone his interview skills. Frequently looks disengaged, a bit patronizing and not very skilled. A good interviewer will know what right questions to ask, know when they have been answered and brings out the best in the person being interviewed. Still, enjoyed the interview.